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    Cracked teeth?Ever asked for veneers?I didn't have a cracked tooth,but I spent three years with braces.Before they were taken off they gave me a veneer on a tooth not fully structured,but it could also be used for cracked or chipped teeth.I don't recall all the prices in America,but if you were here in Korea your teeth would look good as new in 2 years,commonly one for a much cheaper price with Tricare.Least thats how we got my dental plan done.But your son,while he was active in Battalion did he get downtime often?Or did he get the opportunity to just call leave for about two weeks a year?Because I know Ranger Battalion is High Speed and spend alot of time training for a rotation.

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    I've tried asking the VA for anything to replace missing teeth or repair reparable teeth. It's a no-go due to the fact that they have no record of my service/combat related in juries. I have Tricare medical insurance provided to military retirees but dental insurance would cost quite a lot. Stupidly I was under the assumption that any service or combat related dental problems would be covered.

    I'd settle for implants, veneers, false teeth - anything, but it looks like that won't happen unless I cough up the money & that's way too much than I can afford.
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    I had to post the above before without answering the rest of your questions before I lost it due to a computer glitch. Had to reboot. Problem gone, lol.

    My son's whole batt had leave before they left & when they got back whether they wanted it or not. He was deployed 5 times. He always got the full 30 days a year of leave. His first leave was after RIP & a few months later he came home again prior to deployment. All deployments were less than a year so they could train for other missions that they weren't doing in the conflicts they had deployed for. Things like airfield seizure, small boat/water ops, etc. He found the training harder than actual combat. A few times they were on a mission within 2 hours of deplaning in country. Just enough time to get their equipment off the aircraft. That pace kept up for most of the time they were there.
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    Sounds like what I covered in the book.Oh yes,I finally managed to get in touch with my JROTC SAI.Went to go visit him today at the school.He was actually impressed when I recited the six stanzas of the Ranger creed with little correction,and assistance.Not trying to brag,but he told me I'm off to a good start.Especially for a kid my age knowing the creed,and learning it quickly that recites it in the morning and before lights out.I learned that if I get my shot at RASP,I'd better know that creed.I've been told recruiters wish they could've declined opt 40 contracts to those who wanted Ranger but didn't even know the creed.However it seems not only do I need to know the six stanzas of the Ranger creed,seems like I also need to know the Infantry creed as well if I'm considering 11x.

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    It doesn't hurt to learn the creeds & Army song, too.
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    If I were a Recruiter I'd be very selective enlisting Opt 40s. Even those who are well prepared can wash out. Those who aren't prepared don't have a chance. The problem lies with Recruiters who have no i9dea what's expected of a Ranger or what they go through, what happens to them when they get to a Ranger Batt. Many think it's just Ranger School that you can apply for in your unit. Then there are a bunch of them who tell their prospective recruits that they can apply for the Rangers in Infantry OSUT or Airborne School & that's even writing them a contract that doesn't include Airborne School. All of that may be true but there has to be a real need for men in the 75th Regt for Rangers even to come to schools seeking volunteers to fill slots. My son was told by his Recruiter, a Tanker, that he could go to "Ranger School" right out of 19D OSUT. He didn't even know that 19D wasn't an MOS in the 75th or that Ranger School was not a path to get in the 75th. He knew nothing about RIP. I called his boss Recruiter & explained the situation to him & he sent his Recruiter right to our house to cancel the contract. My son had to go back to MEPS, drop out of delayed entry & start from scratch. Time lost - 6 months. At that time there were no Infantry slots, no Airborne slots or RIP slots. The stars had to align just right for him to get an Opt 40. In his Infantry OSUT class Airborne & RIP recruiters made a visit & all of those who volunteered for Airborne School & RIP were accepted. Since he & about 3 others already had their contracts they had to get the rest of the Ranger candidates ready for RIP. Since he was a Judo instructor he was well used to preparing people physically. All of those going to RIP or SFAS were placed in the same platoon so they could do extra PT on their own time & get to the pool for water training.
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    Tanker to Ranger School after 19D osut?I almost forgot how sketchy recruiters can get...quite sketchy.Luckily you called the boss recruiter and had a talk.Because who knew what could've happened if your son bought that guys spit.Thats one thing I'm grateful for having a dad who was a 68W.You all know the ropes and what to look out for while we pups are trying to get in,but then the recruiter tries to short us and gracefully you guys step in to help us out.Also when I touched base with my instructor the other day,I told him about my conditioning.He says I'm off to a good start,though I'm pretty much picking up where I left off at.But if I continue I should have the power to make it.However lately I thought of buying a weight vest from V-force to wear daily and use during calisthentics.I have the baby sized alice,but I need some weight to add to it along with a frame.I'd use bags of sand,but I don't have that nowhere near my area.

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    What the Recruiter was thinking was that all male (now female) Soldiers can go to Ranger School regardless of MOS. It's just an advanced combat leader's course. He evidently didn't realize that the only path to the 75th is RASP & that only certain MOSs are slotted in the Ranger Regt. - 19D or any Armor MOS isn't on the list. Rangers are basically light Infantry with their support MOSs & don't use tanks. What confuses them is all Rangers in the 75th are required to attend Ranger School & be tabbed after about a year in Regiment.

    I filled my ruck with canned food for conditioning. NOT canned bean sprouts, lol. Since I was usually armed with a handgun I'd include as much 50 round boxes of .40 cal as I had at the time.
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    Direct Action,the strongest Special Operations light Infantry.From what I know with the exception of Delta/DEVGRU,the 75th is Americas emergency response force that can be anywhere on earth in 24 hrs or less,often alot less.These guys are High Speed,and like to hit when the target least expects it.Normally at night,but as they say "Rangers Own The Night".Oh yes lately I've been running on the track.Was suppose to do it today but they had a carnival for toddlers today.So I took my chances and found a running trail.Its approximately six miles and then some long.A combination of flat grounds,and steep roads.Most of the time I spent running,but after 3 1/2-four miles I took a short walk.Just to give my legs a break,but ran most of the six mile distance in almost 40 minutes.It recorded 4.40 miles,but the maps number actually added up to six miles.Its pretty much a run from the gym,around the airfield till I got back to the gym.Guess I can use that route for both running and now rucking or weighted cardio.I'd share but my phone won't let me share my record with the map.

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    That's about the daily PT for SEALS & Rangers in garrison. We used to have to run 4 miles barefoot on the beach, great for the ankles & legs, & swim back on almost a daily basis regardless of temp or weather. It could get quite cold at Little Creek, VA & the Atlantic is never warm there. We took the lead on a rotating basis & there were a couple of my Teammates that we never wanted to lead, lol. Some of us were fast runners, some were fast swimmers, some were both. In the Rangers there's always a Cardiac Hill where they have to run up. We had the Grinder where all calisthenics were conducted, notably thousands of flutter kicks, cruncher sit ups & push ups & any other creative methods to make us hurt. This was all after a warmup session that by itself could make a grown man cry.
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