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    okay.. ill soften it up...

    malinformed?

    EBR is not just an aluminium stock.. ..
    and I'm the foreginer here...

    well sorry..
    anyhows.. im here to make conversation.. I beleve we have one..
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    The EBR is and should be concidered as a waponsystem which upgrades your M-14 to the specs of 2000.
    my meaning might been too harsh. and for that I apologize.

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    Please correct my ignorance, then.

    As I understand it, the original design for the Mk 14 Mod 0 enhanced battle rifle was created in 2001 by Mike Rock and Jim Ribordy to fill a need for the U.S. Navy SEALs. They took a standard accurized M14 action, trigger and barrel and mated it to an all aluminum stock with integral M1917 'Picatinny' Rails and a collapsible buttstock.


    In 2003, Ron Smith and Smith Enterprises Inc. created its own version of the M14 Enhanced Battle Rifle (MK14 SEI Mod 0), which was more widely favored than the original design, and which was then used as a basis to eventually create the Mark 14 Mod 0 with Springfield Armory, Inc. being tasked to supply the necessary machinery needed to create the weapon in cooperation with the Naval Surface Warfare Crane Division.


    US Navy SEALs were the first to be armed with the Mk14 EBR in 2004, followed by the Coast Guard and then the Army. The US Marines considered the Mk 14, but instead developed the M39 Enhanced Marksman Rifle - also an M14 in a Sage/Fulton aluminum stock, but with a few key differences.

    When I stated the Mk14 is "just the old M14 in a a sexy new aluminum stock" I meant that the new rifle uses an M14 action in an M14 receiver, M14 iron sights, M14 Trigger, M14 Magazines and fires M14 ammunition - not that the rifle is not modified in the process of refitting it.

    I hope that clears things up for everyone.
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    and as it is its not just an "aluminium stock"...

    it doenst do justice.

    i hope you grasp what Im after..

    the soviets would indeed slab a "ALUMINIUM STOCK HERE YOU GO"

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    Doc, is it free floating?
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    According to the Sage Stock installation guide at http://www.m14.ca/manuals/SAGE_EBR_INSTALL.pdf -
    The EBR operating rod guide block differs from the original... in-as-much as it is designed to lock down the barrel and create a free float of the barrel forward of the block.
    As a result, the Sage design results in a semi free floated barrel - a true free float would have none of the stock contacting the barrel at all. As highpower shooters have shown, though, the M14 system is capable of exceptional accuracy without benefit of a floated barrel, though at the cost of careful setup and bedding.

    Interestingly, while looking for the answer to your question I found that Sage makes EBR type stocks for the M1 Garand and the Mini-14, along with one of the more interesting collapsible stocks I've seen for the Remington 870 shotgun. See the Sage website at (link) Sage International, Ltd.
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    Maybe this will help clear a few things up.

    The History and Development of the SAGE Enhanced Battle Rifle (EBR) chassis stock system

    Be sure and click on Evolution of the Enhanced Battle Rifle while you are there.


    IMHO, the finest EBRs made are the MK14 SEI Mod 0 and the TACOM M14EBR-RI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt Medic TXARNG View Post
    The US Marines considered the Mk 14, but instead developed the M39 Enhanced Marksman Rifle -
    also an M14 in a Sage/Fulton aluminum stock, but with a few key differences...
    The only thing Fulton had to do with the SAGE EBR stock was selling it.
    Fulton did not have a hand in development, they were strictly a distributor.

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    Thanks, H2O MAN - I was hoping you would chime in here, as I know you collect and shoot the M14 variants. None of the websites I had yet seen specified just what Fulton's role was - I now see that even Fulton's website refers to it as a Sage stock. Thanks for helping clear that up!
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