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    I get mine direct deposited once a month. I was never given an option on twice a month although that's not saying that there isn't that option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Glenn View Post
    All I can remember about the pay calculation was that 20 years was half your base pay & 30 years was 75%. My 27 years came to about 68%-70%. Maybe a tad more. I was officially in the drilling Navy Reserve between my junior & senior years of HS, split option, & I that was figured into my total retirement pay. Probably on the drill points method. As an E-8 Reservist each retirement point is worth about $.25 per point per month for the rest of his life. Something like that, anyhow.

    Reservists retire with 1 retirement point per drill or active duty day. A drill is one 4 hour block so a weekend drill gets you 4 points. You need a minimum of 20 years of active duty to start drawing all of your pay, active duty & reserve right away whereas a Reservist can put 20+ years of Reserve time in & retire but doesn't start drawing his pay until age 60. Until a retired Reservist reaches age 60 or reaches his 30 year mark he's in the Retired Reserve & subject to a call to active duty. During Desert Shield/Desert Storm this had happened to several in the unit where I served as an Active army Advisor to the Reserve.

    In your case they'll take your active duty time, 20 years or more, & add any Reserve time as I understand it. Somewhere you can find out how much a Reserve CWO2 gets paid on his retirement per retirement point. Then figure out how may retrirement points you accrued as a Reservist & add that to your active duty retirement pay.

    Are you starting to think along those lines, Chief Q?
    Kind of a silly question, but do they readjust each year when the new pay tables go into effect?

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    Retirees draw 50% of their base pay after 20 years - but it's 50% of the pay at the rate in effect when they retired. After that, retirees get separate, often smaller, rate increases than the active folks.
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    I normally get a small raise each year. And I mean small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Glenn View Post
    I normally get a small raise each year. And I mean small.
    Did you even get one this year? I know there was no raise at all for those drawing VA...did they raise retiree pay?
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    I don't think I got one. If I did it was so small that it was unremarkable. You're talking early this year & I can hardly remember what I had for breakfast 15 minutes ago!
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    I know you cant get higher than 75% after 30 years but your base pay will always increase for those who stay beyond 30. Anyway, Top did you get a nice retirement certificate when you retired? Did you get an honorable discharge certificate as well?

    Here is a certificate pic

    http://www.military-certificates.com/ar-ret-10.tif

    here is a ppt brief as well.

    dma.mt.gov/HRO/Products/PreRetBrf.ppt

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    http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&hl=en&ct=clnk
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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefwarrantofficer View Post
    I know you cant get higher than 75% after 30 years but your base pay will always increase for those who stay beyond 30. Anyway, Top did you get a nice retirement certificate when you retired? Did you get an honorable discharge certificate as well?

    Here is a certificate pic

    http://www.military-certificates.com/ar-ret-10.tif

    here is a ppt brief as well.

    dma.mt.gov/HRO/Products/PreRetBrf.ppt

    html version

    Army Preretirement Briefing
    here are the latest pre-retirement slides

    http://www.armyg1.army.mil/rso/docs/...t-Briefing.ppt

    or .pdf version

    http://www.armyg1.army.mil/rso/docs/...t-Briefing.pdf
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    I got a nice certificate, an honorable discharge, an MSM & a nice retirement dinner.

    I still have the footprint on the butt of my dress blues to prove that I indeed am no longer in the loop.
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    well I got some answers from a fellow warrant who asked the same question on a warrant officer forum.

    has added a new comment at the Transition and Retirement Topics - ( https://forums.bcks.army.mil/Communi...413&lang=en-US ) topic. The comment was contributed on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:26 PM.
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    Typically, it is 31 days. However, there are some additional situations where you may incur an ADSO due to training or a promotion.

    I direct you to the following areas for further research:

    * T10USC, Section 1371 - holding rank over 30 day reference, general retired grade rule for WO.

    * T10USC, Section 1370 - The 10 year rule for commissioned officers. It does NOT apply to WOs!!!
    You can view both of these sections of code at the following link - http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/10C69.txt

    * AR 600-8-24, Officer Transfers and Discharges, Para 6-15. Service obligations a. Generally, an officer who completes certain formal education or training programs accepts career status, a certain promotion, or a PCS and incurs an ADSO (AR 350-100). Normally, an officer must be able to fulfill the ADSO on or before the effective date of retirement. However, CG, HRC, may grant nonstatutory waivers. Each request will be on a case by case basis.
    b. An RC officer requesting voluntary retirement in lieu of elimination action (see para 4-24) is not subject to this paragraph.
    c. An RA warrant officer scheduled for mandatory retirement may accept an ADL promotion to pay grade CW3, CW4, or CW5 without incurring ADSO. Retention of these warrant officers beyond their mandatory retirement date is not authorized.

    * DODI 1332.20, Minimum Service in Grade for Non-Disability (Voluntary) Retirement - discusses a 2 yr ADSO for CW3 - CW5 promotions on the Active Duty List of the Military Services.

    I hope I've provided you with all of the main references you can research and then based on your status and situation can determine your requirements to maintain your highest grade held.

    * As a last resort, there is always the Army Grade Determination Review Board / AR 15-80 to review for additional guidance on receiving a highest grade for retired pay, if a higher grade was previously held.


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