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    Hi Soldiers,

    After this semester of college I will have about 110 college credits, but I will be unable to finish the last 10 due to an internship being required for my degree that I haven't been able to get.

    I understand one actually needs the degree to become an officer (from being a civilian instead of active military), but what If I did service as enlisted first, could I go to OCS after a few years and become an officer even with only 110 credits?

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    Papachop can confirm but to get selected to OCS as an enlisted requires a completed, accredited, four-year degree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefwarrantofficer View Post
    Papachop can confirm but to get selected to OCS as an enlisted requires a completed, accredited, four-year degree.
    Unless they significantly changed something, that's how it is... used to be you could go enlisted-to-OCS with 90 credits (had to have degree complete prior to CPT), but that ended a few years ago. With OCS tightening down the way it is, I don't see that coming back any time soon.

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    Even if you get the degree, you most likely won't be going to OCS after you've been enlisted. The Army is DRAMATICALLY cutting down accessions of Officer Candidates, particularly in-service (those currently serving) and prior-service. Even getting in as a College Option (i.e. civilian) is extremely difficult right now. The selection rate at the last USAREC board was less than 10%. My OCS company had 4 attorneys with their J.D.s and six other Officer Candidates with their graduate degrees.

    Not trying to shoot your dreams down, but you're gonna have to want it a hell of a lot more than just "enlist now and try later" due to not having an internship...
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    Quote Originally Posted by papachop View Post
    Even if you get the degree, you most likely won't be going to OCS after you've been enlisted. The Army is DRAMATICALLY cutting down accessions of Officer Candidates, particularly in-service (those currently serving) and prior-service. Even getting in as a College Option (i.e. civilian) is extremely difficult right now. The selection rate at the last USAREC board was less than 10%. My OCS company had 4 attorneys with their J.D.s and six other Officer Candidates with their graduate degrees.

    Not trying to shoot your dreams down, but you're gonna have to want it a hell of a lot more than just "enlist now and try later" due to not having an internship...
    Sorry for the confusion, I want to enlist initially even after I figure out how to finish my degree, if it will be in a reasonable time frame. I was asking for contingency purposes if I could possibly make a career out of the military with the college credits I have. Thanks for the info though.

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    Could you make a career? Sure - but if you're intent on enlisting first, it will most likely be as either an NCO or Warrant, not commissioned (nothing wrong with any of the above, just different choices).
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    Let me make this clear. It is harder to become a technical Warrant than go the regular Commissioned route. I have high-speed E-7s than are not getting selected for WOCS. Also, I have met CPTs and MAJs that said they wished they went Warrant. It is simply the best to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefwarrantofficer View Post
    Let me make this clear. It is harder to become a technical Warrant than go the regular Commissioned route. I have high-speed E-7s than are not getting selected for WOCS. Also, I have met CPTs and MAJs that said they wished they went Warrant. It is simply the best to be.
    I would think this depends on what you want to be doing on a regular basis. Leading\managing = commissioned, actually doing\teaching = warrant?
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    My section is supposed to be run by a FA 53 (O-4) and two warrants.

    Guess what? There have been no officers/warrants assigned here for two years; only ran by NCOs. So guess what? I am now the OIC going downrange with the section and leading/managing/doing/teaching Lol. I just met six other warrants in my Brigade and they are the senior guys in their respective sections.

    Wait to you get to the operational Army LT. You will see that Warrants will be given assignments that will never happen to a regular commissioned officer (e.g. S-6 and CSSAMO both run by a warrant or being a Commander and Staff Officer at the same time.). That is how we roll and regarded. And that is what is explained and understood to us at the schoolhouse.
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