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    A post mentioned about Sapper school and I thought I post this informational pertaining to it.




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    What is a sapper? Where does the name sapper come from?


    A sapper is “considered an elite combat engineer in the United States Army. In the French Army, sapeur (sapper), refers to the first official corps created by Napoleon I, a military engineering corp.


    A sapper may perform any of a variety of combat engineering duties. Such tasks typically include bridge-building, laying or clearing minefields, demolitions, field defenses as well as building, road and airfield construction and repair. In other words, a modern sapper's tasks involve facilitating movement and logistics of allied forces and impeding that of enemies.”


    Sapping is a term used in siege operations. Any trench excavated under defensive musket or artillery fire that was intended to advance a besieging army's position in relation to the works of an attacked fortification was referred to as a sap.


    What is the history of the sapper engineers in the U.S. Army?


    In the U.S. Army, Sappers are combat engineers or other personnel who support the front-line infantry, and they have fought in every war in American history. For example, after the Battle of Yorktown, General Washington cited the U.S. Army's first Chief of Engineers for conduct which afforded "brilliant proofs of his military genius."



    How do I get my Sapper Tab? What does the sapper leader course consist of?


    To wear the Sapper Tab, a Soldier must complete the Sapper Leader Course (SLC) which is operated by the U.S. Army Engineer School at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri . The Sapper Leader Course is a 28-day course designed to train joint-service leaders in small unit tactics, leadership skills, and tactics required to perform as part of a combined arms team. The course is open to enlisted Soldiers in the grades of E-4 (in the Army, specialist) and above, cadets, and officers O-3 (Army, captain) and below. As students can come from any combat or combat support branch of the service, female soldiers are permitted to attend, but priority is given to engineering, cavalry, and infantry soldiers. The course is divided into two Phases:


    Phase I lasts 14 days and covers general subjects including medical, navigation, demolitions, air and water operations, mountaineering, and landmines and weapons used by enemy forces.


    Phase II is the remaining 14 days. It covers basic patrolling techniques and battle drills that emphasize leadership. The subjects include urban operations, breaching, patrol organization and movement, and reconnaissance, raid and ambush tactics. It concludes with a three-day situation training exercise, and five-day field training exercise. These missions are a 60/40 mix of engineer and infantry missions. Each training event is graded and scored. To graduate, a sapper must earn 700 out of 1000 points in order to wear the sapper tab.


    Leadership is emphasized throughout the SLC. During the course leader roles are rotated regularly and each student is evaluated at least twice on leadership. The results of the Sapper Leader Course are soldiers who are better-trained combat engineers.

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    What do sappers do in the U.S. Army today?


    Modern combat engineering and sappers still retains the Roman role of building fieldfortifications, road paving, and the breaching of terrain obstacles. The combat engineering role includes practices and techniques of camouflage, reconnaissance, communication methods and enhancement of survival by other troops. Combat engineering also includes construction of roads, bridges, field fortifications and obstacles. In their role, combat engineers use a wide variety of engineer hand and power tools. They are also responsible for construction rigging, demolitions, camouflage, field fortifications, obstacle clearance and construction, assault of fortifications, bridge erection, use of assault boats in water obstacle crossings, expedient road and helipad construction, general construction, engineer route and road reconnaissance. Combat engineering employees a wide range of transportation vehicles and equipment, and uses weapons unique to the engineers, including those used in land mine warfare. All these role activities and technologies are divided into several areas of combat engineering.



    Who is eligible to attend the sapper leader course?


    The Sapper Leader Course is a fast-paced 28-day course designed to train joint-service leaders in small unit tactics, leadership skills, and war-fighter tactics required to perform as part of a combined arms team in a contemporary operating environment. The SLC is open to enlisted Soldiers in the grades of specialist (promotable) and above, and engineer officers captain and below.


    How do I graduate from the sapper leader course?


    You must complete all 28 days of training. Throughout the course there are tests and events that you can earn points for. A student must earn 700 out of 1000 points to graduate.



    What happens to me if I am injured during the course?


    The SLC always has medics on duty. If a student is injured they are required to go through a sapper instructor. If the instructors deem the injury serious enough medics are called to evaluate the injury further, then the decision is made to either send the student to the local TMC or Emergency Room. From that point the decision will be made if they can continue the course or not.



    What hazards are there during sapper leader course?


    The SLC will teach the students mountaineering, water jumping, demolitions, as well as many other engineer and infantry related tasks. All these events hold the chance that the student can hurt themselves. However, all events are closely watched by highly trained sapper instructors, students are shown and taught the proper way of doing things to prevent the off-chance of an injury.



    What if I fail a training “skill”?


    Majority of the events are based on a point system, if a sapper fails an event they will not be allocated the maximum amount of points as one who passes.





    What if I can’t swim?


    Best advice is to learn how to swim; however, if you are a weak swimmer, there are certified life guards and rescue boats at each water event.



    What if I don’t want to jump out of aircraft?


    Failure to jump out of the CH-47 is considered a refusal to train and the sapper will be dropped from the course. You have to jump out of the aircraft and swim to shore.



    Where do you do the helicopter training?


    Lake of the Ozarks Recreational Area.



    How do you do the water training in the winter?


    We train the same way we do in the summer. If the water temperature drops below a specific point wet suits are issued.



    What if I can’t rappel or fast rope?


    As with other schools, you are not usually tested on skills that you are not shown and taught how to do. All sappers are shown, and taught how to fast rope, then tested.



    What is the average attrition rate in the sapper leader course?


    60% of Sappers pass the course and 40% earn enough points to wear the Sapper tab.



    What is the average attrition rate for females compared to males?


    The average course contains 5-10% of females to male ratio. The attrition rate affects all genders equally, so, 40% of either gender finish the course with enough points to wear the sapper tab.



    What benefits are there for completing the sapper leader course?


    The individuals that go to the SLC will receive excellent military training in warrior skills and leadership that will help them through their military career; also those that finish the sapper course with enough points will graduate and wear the Sapper tab.



    How does the sapper leader course compare to ranger school?


    There are some skills that are both taught in the Sapper Leaders Course (SLC) and Ranger school that overlap; however, in the SLC the sappers are taught skills that are pertinent to combat engineering. The SLC is exactly what it sounds. It is an engineer specific course that is designed to forge men and women into Sapper leaders. The sappers that attend and graduate the SLC become experts in engineer specific tasks, infantry skills, mountaineering, and are trained to lead sappers to complete the mission despite the obstacles. The SLC differs from Ranger school in not only what was listed above, but as Ranger School is designed to further develop the skills of an infantry soldier the SLC is designed to further the skills of a sapper and develop them into Sapper leaders.



    How can I be a sapper?


    To become a Sapper you must earn at least 700 of 1000 points that are able to be earned. They must also receive 50% of “Go’s” on patrols and cannot miss more than 24 hours of training.

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    Can female soldiers be sappers/combat engineers?


    Female soldiers who wear the sapper tab can work in Sapper units, but in non-combat roles.



    Where is sapper training? (location, climate, weather, terrain)


    The sapper leader course is located at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri. Average temperature winter lows are in the 20 degree range while the average temperature summer highs are in the low 90 degrees. Average winter temperature is 32 degrees while the average summer temperature 75 degrees. Snowfall can accumulate at times, and can stay around for weeks. Summers can be quite hot and humid. According to the location of the jet stream, high winds are common, especially in the spring tornado season. Tornado warnings are common in the spring.



    How can I become a sapper leader instructor?


    All sapper leader instructors must be ranger and sapper tabbed. To become a SLC instructor all personnel E5-E6 must be sapper tabbed, and if not ranger, they must be ready to go to Ranger school.



    Are there any souvenirs I can purchase?


    There are no souvenirs that can be purchased at the unit, but at the local Fort Leonard Wood AAFES there are stickers and other memorabilia that can be bought.



    Who wants to be a sapper?


    To be a sapper, you must be determined, resilient, patient, physically and mentally tough, quick to learn and adapt, a team player, self motivated, and hard core. You should enjoy mountaineering, demolitions, water jumping from a helicopter, airborne operations, and negotiating a multitude of challenges. You must be willing and able to lead a sapper team in areas of difficult terrain, visibility, with limited knowledge of the enemy, even when you are so hungry and tired, most men would choose to give up.


    If there are still questions visit the Sapper website at http://www.wood.army.mil/sapper/; also visit the 2009 Best Sapper Competition at http://www.wood.army.mil/sapper/BSC/default.htm
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    OMG OMG OMG freaking Fantastic post!!!

    Crazy enough, I was actually thinking about creating a thread asking about sappers.

    oh and oh I thought I'd add the Sapper vid, since it is an amazing vid

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpL5AfXLS1k[/ame]
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    Excellent post, Mr. Q! Any questions about the Army's Sapper program is answered right here.

    My son might have the opportunity to attend Sapper School this summer through his Reserve unit. He'd be a shoe-in if funding allows - Ranger, Airborne, Air Assault & a Master Breacher qualified Infantryman as well as a qualified Army Instructor. He's thinking it over. He already has an ROTC mission at Ft. Lewis & if he doesn't have a job yet this will be a chance to make some extra money. This would give him an option to teach BCT, Infantry OSUT, Airborne School, Ranger School, Air Assault School, RASP, & Sapper School during the summer months as a Reservist as extra instructors are needed.
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    Awesome! Chief-Q, It's very imformative. Thanxs, for sharing.
    The base is so large it has its own 'neighborhoods'. These include: 'KBR-land' (a Halliburton subsidiary company); 'CJSOTF' which is home to ' the Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force' and is surrounded by especially high walls that is, according to The Washington Post, so secretive that even the base Army public affairs chief has never been inside.

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    Great stuff Q.. Its a course with attitude for Combat Engineers... Awesome stuff!!...

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    I'm in the process of re-enlisting in the Military,(From USMC to Army) and one area I have my eyes locked on to is Combat Engineer, and then SLC. Not to get anyones panties in a wad, but it doesn't seem too much different than MC Boot Camp and MCT. Yes, there is the main difference in that there are a bunch of explosives used. But in all, it seems quite simular.

    I have one question though. As I read about it, the main concern is that the most failed part is Land Nav. Do they teach Land Nav in Basic?

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    It seems that ALL Army schools are similar to basic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Glenn View Post
    It seems that ALL Army schools are similar to basic!
    Sometimes it does. I do know though, after speaking to a lot of people on both sides, that the Army has changed a lot in the last few years.

    I also understand that there are different roles in the differing branches.

    My fathers step-Father was one of the first Green Berets, and I'm sure that the training then was a hell of a lot different than it is now...

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