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    Does the Army do the buddy system? Like if I get my cousin to join with me, can the recruiter have us ship out together and go to the same OSUT for 31B? He is considering joining, and I figure if I talk to a recruiter first and recommend him, that rank advancement for a referral would be nice

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    Please see an answer I pulled for you after googling "US Army Buddy System"

    Well, the actual buddy system used to be an enlistment option, but it hasn't been used in a few years, because of increased deployments etc.

    It guaranteed basic training, MOS (military occupational specialty - job) training and the first assignment together. It is different today, and here is what happens now:

    Basically, if they are both qualified to do the same job (MOS), and enlist for the same MOS they can go to basic and their MOS School (called AIT, Advanced Individual Training) together. Their first assignment after that is up in the air. They may be together after training, they may not be.

    If they don't pick the same MOS at enlistment, then they can sometimes arrange Basic Training together, although it is more difficult to line that up. Obviously, they would then go to different AIT's afterwards.

    Just let them know that if they pick the same MOS, they will go through all their training together, but may not end up with the same first duty station. Sometimes they get lucky and get assigned together after training.
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    One closing comment, dont confuse this enlistment opportunity with the "buddy buddy system" one which I became closely aquanted with in my own training. Buddy buddy system is a method of training that teams you up with a training platoon mate, and you have to do your own stuff BUT be responsible for your buddys screw ups... man I got mucho smoked through training on this... funniest being on the inspection parade on the General Officer Commanding inspection, the company in the warm up went left turn and my buddy went right... the dude was a redneck from the hills but damn, that doesnt compare with his next screw up which was the slide action of the weapon not being released before the General came around.... ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh dude... that afternoon was NOT pleasant!!.. It went from getting smoked to getting nuked!!.... At the end of it, all I could do was............ My central nervous system was at full load... needless to say, we went to different units after training....
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    Im gonna have to look into that Ihad not heard of not getting first duty station together...

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    I've heard of going to BCT & AIT or OSUT together only if the same MOS is chosen but I really haven't heard of a buddy system for a long time. Obviously if one of them picks Infantry & the other Artillery then they'll be going to different posts for their respective OSUTs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Glenn View Post
    I've heard of going to BCT & AIT or OSUT together only if the same MOS is chosen but I really haven't heard of a buddy system for a long time. Obviously if one of them picks Infantry & the other Artillery then they'll be going to different posts for their respective OSUTs.
    Yep, I think thats what the chap said also, has to be the same MOS's... but heres the thing, if you need an FNG in two different units (2nd and 3rd Batt looking for 11 booboos) doesnt unit needs take preference?... Seems like a long stretch to gaurantee same unit, and what if you were raised by your cousin and your surrogate family send their own son with you in a buddy system?..
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    Alright, thank you for the responses...He wimped out anyway...First he was all gung ho about joining the Marines, then he said he was going to join the Army with me because of the better benefits and it is not an open contract, now he is acting all anti-war...go figure

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    My cousin, our buddy & I all joined the Navy after H.S. under the buddy system. Our contract read Submarine School right after bootcamp. Well my cousin left a month before me, My buddy broke his foot & had to wait an additional month anyhow. That one was understandable. When questioned about that they told my cousin that a seat in Submarine School had opened at that time so he had to go to bootcamp earlier to take advantage of it. Of course that was then & that was the Navy but I've never fully trusted any type of buddy system. My brother-in-law went into the Army with his school pal & the only time they saw each other was at basic & that was the last time. Different MOSs, different AITs & different duty assignments. You're probably just as well off going it alone.
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    To give you all some history on this: Actually, the idea of buddy system was invented by the German Army in WW2 if I have my stuff right, and not by the US Army. The idea was to get more recruits by inviting two friends to join and stay together throughout combat and war (unless one of them was maimed or killed of course). Generally, it is reported, the notion was very successful in every respect. It cannot be denied that two friends have a supporting effect on each other. That is, when things get tough they look out for each other. Actually, there were incidences were these 'friend combat teams' were more successful on their own than a squad of soldiers. In today's US Army, I assume, this idea and efficiency will be downtoned simply by legal aspects.

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    I've heard that too, Sir. I think you're right that it started n the German Army but I wouldn't doubt if the Roman Legions didn't have something like that, too.

    It's a sound idea but when the needs of the Army, any Army, trumps any promises it can be counterproductive. I know my cousin was pretty upset about the whole deal. It didn't bother me too much but by then I had heard from my cousin & he pretty much told me what to expect.
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