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    Hi all, I just went down to meps last week hoping to get a ranger contract. When I got to my counsler he said I didn't qualify for airborne because I failed the pip color test. I informed him that I passed the falant and the airborne physical just requires you to distinguish between red/green. I also got all 1's on my pulhes. I winded up with an 11x contract. I have sinced talked to an airborne instructor at benning and he informed my I am good to go for airborne. What I am wondering is, is if there is any way possible to get back to meps and reno my contract and try to get option 40 added in. Thanks for any anwsers and all help.

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    A recruiter will chime in but there is no "renegotiating" a contract. What is RENO? Reno911? This is not the NFL or having a fortune 100 company grab you after college. This is the US Army.

    My suggestion is when you get to your unit, you can request those schools.
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    If you don't get an Option 40 contract it'll be very hard to get into the 75th Ranger Regt. from a unit.

    These days Option 40s are almost impossible to get. It's hard enough to get an Option 4. You'll have a slim chance of being offered the opportunity to volunteer for each at OSUT if they need people to fill their classes. Make sure you're a PT stud because that's the criteria that your Drill Sgt will use to recommend you. You'll need that to get through RASP anyhow so start getting into world-class athletic shape. There's a huge wash-out rate in RASP. Many get dropped on the first day when the take they physical assessment tests. The requirement is to score a minimum of 80 in each event for the 17-21 age group just to qualify. From that group they further select those who scored the highest. Out of each hundred that get the contract there's probably only 60 that make it through the first couple of days. Then you have the rest of the 8 weeks to have the chance of being dropped right up to the last assessment event.

    Sometime during your enlistment you can ask for Ranger School. That will not get you in the 75th. Upon completion of that course you'll go back to the unit that sent you. You'll at least have the Ranger Tab & get that training. That in itself is an accomplishment.

    It's always best to have the contract in hand for whatever you want. You can always ask your Recruiter to have your contract changed. It might not happen because he's a busy man & there might not even be openings but you can ask.

    Good luck & keep us updated on your progress.
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    can you renegotiate your contract? yup....is it easy? nope....think of it this way...i go to a dealership, I say "I want a brand new black 2011 Silverado with this x and y options"...the dealer works otu the stuff for you, you get approved and drive out...next week you come back and say "hell with this truck, I want a red one now with all the same options as this one...take this back...they wont take it back...not that easy, your are now going to have to trade that one in to get the red one...so it can be done but not as easy as you think....

    First, talk to your Recruiter, get whatever that "instructor" said IN WRITTING, b/c thats all it matters...then have the recruiter once you get him that paperwork, go to his station commander, his SC will tell your recruiter "hell no", and he will tell you in a nicer tone of voice "hell no" too...it will be an up hill battle with each level of leadership telling you it cant be done....but guess what the moment you say "i wont ship" things change...now i am not telling you "not" to ship...but if you use those words...you better mean it b/c they can call your bluff and say "fine, drop him from the DEP and lets find another guy"....

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    lol hooah!! great response MP!!

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    Thanks for the help and responses guys, if anyone else has anything to add or any insight or helpful tips please do. I am going to talk to my recruiter monday about getting option 40 onto my contract. I am willing to add years and forfeit my bonus if necessary. Thanks again.

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    Cobra, understand its not about getting you to give up your bonus or sign up for more years...for instance you cant go up to me as a Recruiter or my station commander "hey I'll give you 6 years in the Army of service AND I'll give up my bonus if you give me option 40"....thats not a barganing tool, not to us...it could work for getting a new car or something but not for us...its like the saying a bird in the hand worth more than 2 in the bush...i love those commercials (geico)

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    I believe all I can do is try. If things don't work out I will be more than happy to spend time in the infantry. My ultimate goal is special forces. Infantry may be a better way to facilitate that thank leaving ranger btn. I've heard they don't take kindly to guys leaving battalion for sf. Thanks

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    If your ultimate goal is Special Forces try for an 18X contract although very few guys off the street even make selection regardless of the contract. It's hard enough for seasoned Soldiers, even Rangers.

    If 18X contracts are still available that will at least guarantee Infantry OSUT followed by Airborne School as an Option 40 contract will also. 18X contracts are even harder to get than Option 40.

    You can ask your Recruiter about a contract change but I don't think it'll happen. Maybe an Option 4 Airborne. Try to settle for that & there's a slim possibility that Ranger Recruiters might come by Infantry OSUT or Airborne School looking for volunteers. They normally start there because it's the closest being at Ft. Benning & there are more Infantrymen than any other MOS in the 75th Rangers.

    Before you do that try to find as much information about Airborne School & RASP via Google. Try to exceed the requirements before shipping to BCT. Don't rely on Infantry OSUT to get you in shape for RASP. My son felt he lost a step while at 11X OSUT & that's even with extra PT done on his own time along with other Option 4, Option 40 & 18X candidates. Even if you don't get either contract it sure won't hurt you.

    Good luck.
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    I will see about a contract change, I'm fine if I don't get it because I can get to special forces anyways. I already score a 280 on the pt test and am looking to exceed 300 before I ship in 6 months, I also ruck march regularly to help keep in rucking shape and to toughen my feet. I have a friend that just graduated the Q a couple of months ago, so he is helping on the train up. I also considered 18x for a long while but felt I would be more of an asset to an A-team if I had some army experience and maybe a deployment or two under my belt. Thanks for the responses and help. All is appreciated.

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