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    Hello,

    I'm doing some research to find out what my enlistment options are, and I had a question about the Warrant Officer program.

    I'm prior Navy with 4 years active, two years as an E-5. I have an RE-1 and served aboard a forward deployed ship (USS Kitty Hawk). I was an IT in the Navy and my last position was infosec specialist. I got out in 2005, went to school, and worked at a Fortune 100 company leaving there as a Network Security Engineer after 5 years. I have a bachelor's degree and am currently an adjunct instructor at the school I graduated from.

    So the question I have is would I be a viable candidate for the Warrant Program suggesting I go 25xx series?

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    Give me 5 and I answer your question.
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    Bryan,

    Welcome to the forum and thanks for your service. Some informative links are

    http://armyforums.com/joining-army/1900-go-warrant.html

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    U.S. Army Recruiting Command's Warrant Officer Recruiting Information Site

    If you want to go National Guard, you have a better chance of getting selected in a shorter time than if you go the active duty route as I did. I say this because you can find open slots in a state and compete much quicker.

    My background is similar to yours except that I was a computer programmer in the Marine Corps and had 10 years civilian IT experience for many Fortune 500 companies. Since I was prior service and had a bachelors (too old at the time to go the commissioned route); I could not get signal and became an MP. Unbeknownst to me at the time; was that I was able to apply as a signal warrant and not be in the Signal feeder MOS.

    I do not know your age but you can try to become a Lieutenant and hopefully branch signal. But at least with Warrant, as you know, you will be selected into the field of your choice.

    Yes, you are a viable candidate because many servicemembers from other branches get selected into the Signal Warrant Officer MOS. You just have to be competitive on paper now and days. In being competitive, a deployment, with certifications is a plus. A degree in IT is great as well since having a degree is not a requirement but shows that you have a strong educational background. Since I had an associates and bachelors in IT, that gave me an edge compared to other applicants. I say this because I have worked with many peers in my field that still do not have any college degrees in IT. Yes, they do have the necessary english courses but that is about it.

    Anything else; ask away.
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    Thanks CWO,

    I had originally looked at officer, but when I found the Warrant Pages that you linked to on my own, it sounded like a much better fit for me. I just wasn't sure about what manning looked like these days for it and am concerned about my lack of time as an NCO compared to the competition. I'm not sure what my Navy experience would count as a deployment, but I was awarded for 3 years overseas service and 3 years sea service (forward deployed ships count all time as "at sea", normal ships only count underway time), global war on terrorism service metal, global war on terrorism expeditionary metal. So I was in the AOR in support of the kickoff for OIF. As far as certifications, I'll be Security + certified end of this month. I never really went after certs as I've never had a position that required them like consulting, ect. But now that I have time I'm brushing up on the test formats and plan on blowing them away. CCNA would probably be the next one I do. I'm not sure which ones I'll do after that if I'm still not in, but I have a list.

    I'll be 29 in September, so I'm under all of the age requirements, but after reading about the Warrant program it really seemed like the place were I could be of the greatest benefit to the Army. I'm just not sure if it is feasible to try to go straight at Warrant or if I would/should have to "stop off" somewhere else first. I understand National Guard would probably be an easier stop first, but I really want to go active. The things in life worth doing are hardly ever easy, right?

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    Nothing wrong with pursuing both options because there are Warrants who moved up the commissioned route and some commissioned officers who joined the warrant ranks who preferred to specialize.

    As long as your fitness reports stated your duties and functions as providing operational support during a deployment; then that should help you with the tactical criteria.

    Many current warrants never had the certs to get selected but now the military is moving towards DOD 8570.1 which means that a baseline certification will be required to have elevated privileges on the network. So if you do not have an A+, Security + or Network + certification, you will not be able to work as an OU admin or systems administrator. Anyway, the beauty of this compared to the civilian world is that the government will provide a free voucher for you to get certified. You need to pass an preliminary test to get the voucher.

    Just remember if you return to active duty; you will probably have to wait at least two years before you will be allowed to board for the warrant program. You might get a chance during your first year but proponent would want you to have some Army time before accepting your application. Nothing saying this would happen but its possible. My suggestion is to start taking action now and make this year, the year you returned to military service if you are serious about these goals.
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    Here is the link I was referring to

    https://www.isc2.org/dodmandate/default.aspx
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    Yeah, I'm familiar with 8570.1, it was announced while I was still in, I remember a lot of people that were scared of having to go get the cert as they really weren't up to snuff to hold the jobs that they had. I will have the cert, that's not an issue. I'm just brushing up on the test language as I'd rather not sit a test I haven't at least looked before I entered the room, seems more like gambling than being prepared to me anyways.

    But thanks for the advice. I'm working with a recruiter and he was honest in saying he doesn't know the last thing about bringing in a warrant, so I wanted to get some outside input while awaiting him getting direction from his superiors.

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    I should of clarified. For a recruiter to work with a Warrant applicant; that candidate has to be applying for the flight warrant program. For Signal, you have to be already serving as an enlisted soldier to apply. That is why I said you probably have to wait a while. For me, when I returned to active duty; it took me 4 years to get selected. During those 4 years (which seemed like an eternity), I went to war as an MP. I credit that experience for my selection to the warrant program. Those 4 years were the longest of my life. Now, I have been a warrant for more than three and it has been flying. I go for my third dot next year.
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    CWO,

    I was reading your convo and I'm seriously considering the Army Warrant Officer program (250N, 251A, 254A). But with all things I just wanted to do my research first and get different views. I just came from a warrant officer recruiting brief here in Yokosuka, Japan. And I wanted your opinion on whether or not you think I would be a good candidate. I'm an E-6 in the USN with 15 years in service. IT background with a specialty in network security. Additionally, I'm an Information Dominance instructor and qualifier. PT has never been an issue for me, I'm security+ qualified, been deployed, leadership positions over the past 10 years. Still working on my degree (at my own pace) and should be done soon. What do you think? Thanks in advance.

    James Jackson

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    If you have over 12 years active federal service, you will need a waiver and unlikely you will get selected. The board wants someone that will be in the program for 10 years. Not saying you will get out at 20 but they look at it as an insurance and forced commitment.
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