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    Mark Townsend in Sundvollen, Peter Beaumont and Tracy McVeigh
    guardian.co.uk, Saturday 23 July 2011 18.59 BST

    Anders Brehing Breivik took part in online discussions with members of the EDL and other anti-Islamic groups.
    Anders Behring Breivik, the man accused of the murder of at least 92 Norwegians in a bomb and gun massacre, boasted online about his discussions with the far-right English Defence League and other anti-Islamic European organisations.

    The Norwegian prime minister, Jens Stoltenberg, said Norwegian officials were working with foreign intelligence agencies to see if there was any international involvement in the slaughter. "We have running contact with other countries' intelligence services," he said.

    Breivik was arrested on Utya island where he shot and killed at least 85 people, mostly teenagers, at a youth summer camp for supporters of Norway's Labour party after bombing Oslo's government district just hours before. Dressed as a police officer, he ordered the teenagers to gather round him before opening fire. Survivors described how dozens of people were mown down. The massacre led to the largest death toll ever recorded by a single gunman on the rampage.

    Ida Knudsen, 16, said she had been in a group of 100 who had initially run from the killer, but that was reduced to about 60 as the gunman pursued them. Eventually she was one of 12 who climbed into a boat and escaped.

    Another survivor, 15-year-old Mattori Anson, described how he fled into a cabin with 40 other teenagers. They blocked the door and the killer tried to get inside. "Then he began shooting at the door." Eventually he gave up and the occupants all survived.

    With the entire island a crime scene, officers were still combing the shoreline on Saturday and boats were searching the water for more bodies amid fears the toll could rise further. Police were continuing to investigate whether there had been a second gunman on the island.

    The disclosure of Breivik's claimed links with far-right organisations came as details continued to emerge about the rightwing Christian fundamentalist and Freemason behind Norway's worst postwar act of violence.

    It was revealed that the 32-year-old former member of the country's conservative Progress party who had become ever more extreme in his hatred of Muslims, leftwingers and the country's political establishment had ordered six tonnes of fertiliser in May to be used in the bombing. While police continued to interrogate Breivik, who was charged with the mass killings, evidence of his increasingly far-right world-view emerged from an article he had posted on several Scandinavian websites, including Nordisk, a site frequented by neo-Nazis, far-right radicals and Islamophobes since 2009.

    The Norwegian daily VG quoted one of Breivik's friends, saying that he had become a rightwing extremist in his late 20s and was now a strong opponent of multiculturalism, expressing strong nationalistic views in online debates.

    Breivik had talked admiringly online about conversations he had had with unnamed English Defence League members and the organisation Stop the Islamification of Europe (SIOE) over the success of provocative street actions leading to violence.

    "I have on some occasions had discussions with SIOE and EDL and recommended them to use certain strategies," he wrote two years ago. "The tactics of the EDL are now to 'lure' an overreaction from the Jihad Youth/Extreme-Marxists, something they have succeeded in doing several times already."

    Contacted by email, the EDL had not answered.

    The latest disclosures came as the Norwegian prime minister, Jens Stoltenberg, flew by helicopter to a hotel in the town of Sundvollen close to the island of Utya where many survivors were taken and where relatives converged to reunite with loved ones or identify their dead.

    "A whole world is thinking of them," Stoltenberg said, his voice cracking with emotion. He said the twin attack made Friday the deadliest day in Norway's peacetime history. "This is beyond comprehension. It's a nightmare. It's a nightmare for those who have been killed, for their mothers and fathers, family and friends."

    Buildings around the capital lowered their flags to half-mast while people streamed to Oslo cathedral to light candles and lay flowers. Outside, mourners began building a makeshift altar from dug-up cobblestones. On Saturday the Queen wrote to Norway's King Harald to offer her condolences and express her shock and sadness.

    Breivik's Facebook page was blocked, but a cached version describes a conservative Christian from Oslo. The profile veers between references to lofty political philosophers and gory popular films, television shows and video games. The account appears to have been set up on 17 July. The site lists no "friends" or social connections.

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    Strange how it happened in Norway of all places...The liberal elite are clearly the target .....but Norway ..one of the few countries that has managed to stay out of the EU ?? doesn't make sense....

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    The Nordics is an area of stability in the world, little interest in anything or anybody else outside of the Nordic block with the possible expectation of the Danes. Norway is 95%+ Lutheran population which reflects in their culture, their politics and their world view, which is isolationist, passive and very good natured, but disengaged with the rest of the world which is why Norwegians have the name of being dull and reserved...... but nice people nevertheless..

    Why Norway? The way this went down is ironic, as the manipulation and MO is strikingly similar to Al Quadas MO on recruiting and manipulating disenchanted weak minded but arrogant people into lone wolf attacks.. the same MO is present in this far right wing terrorist attack. They despite their rantings are the opposite side of the coin to Militant Islamic terrorists, in MO, absolutist, uncompromising, imbalanced and filled with virulent hate...

    The tragedy has shown up Norways lack of counter terrorism reaction capability for its 4.6 million residents.. The EU Im sure will help correct this to ensure they are ready for the next nut job (s) that decides the innocent must die for their beliefs... To be honest, its a wake up call for us all... soft target countries in Europe are not the only ones having to deal with terrorism, its a condition that afflicts us all and closer cooperation in Europe is key to making sure this transborder threat/condition is dealt with effectively..

    The nut job IM sure worked along but was prodded into action through the internet without a doubt... he is past his mid twenties and would only goto such extremes over a course of time which as noted by associates of this fellow, his views developed over time and withthe right manipulation through these right wing bodies, he became a mass murdering monster!!... and he needs to be dealt with as such!!..
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    Some food for thought, who benefits from stability turning into panic and instabilty?.... We have seen it after 9/11 (Markets/AQ on the map), 7/7 (Markets/British Islamic community relations takes a nose dive) and other terrorist atrocities, we cannot reasonably say this "Lone Wolf" acted without outside interference as his views developed more recently and as a grown man past his mid twenties, his actions are not consistent with common psychosis that would spurn someone to mass murder.. he is too old and his actions were clearly thought out, callously executed and consistent with a recruited and manipulated terrorist on a lone wolf mission... so what if Norway panics (unlikely), markets, etc... whos to benefit?... who gains?.... if there i a pattern uncovered consistent with the manipulation I suggest above, then they should be a priority for investigation..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black taxi View Post
    Strange how it happened in Norway of all places...The liberal elite are clearly the target .....but Norway ..one of the few countries that has managed to stay out of the EU ?? doesn't make sense....
    Each country has citizens that are off the cliff with their idealogies. You can have a country that is so neutral and peace loving and there will be indigenous types that will bring harm in terrorist fashion. Like our enlistment oath that states "......that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". The domestic part sometimes goes easily unchecked.

    I pray for the families that have experienced loss in this senseless act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefwarrantofficer View Post
    Each country has citizens that are off the cliff with their idealogies. You can have a country that is so neutral and peace loving and there will be indigenous types that will bring harm in terrorist fashion. Like our enlistment oath that states "......that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". The domestic part sometimes goes easily unchecked.

    I pray for the families that have experienced loss in this senseless act.
    Points well made Chief!!..
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