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    Quote Originally Posted by MSGDay View Post
    I just read an article about tribal customs in the south where they take young boys and turn them over to the elders to be taught "the arts of love." Pedophile at its worst sanctioned by the local government!

    Perhaps we ought to get our troops out of there today and leave the sons of b's to their fate!!!!!
    I found that out on my last tour there. Sadly, that atrocity happens.
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    Bottom line is that the customs of others can disgust us.. that it doesn't mean that such a seedy crime means we have an obligation to protect all innocents getting violated there.. theres allot of darkness in this world, we all know that state and non state actors feed into it. The "traditions" of that region include women in "arranged marriages" which can be arranged to forced depending on the parents... Saw a story in a documentary on womens rights in the West bank and one woman was forced at 13 to marry her cousin and she recanted a 10 year story of rape, beating, torture and cruelty that would turn your stomach, but accepted as normal by all around her. Its also fact that children get sold into slavery and depending on their masters can get a hard life to a horrific and violated one... this is the seedy underbelly of domestic life in the middle east, and rightly offends our western culture... however that doesn't justify us going all Captain America on their ass.. remember, there are many especially in the fundamentalist community of Islam that think we are all a bunch of hedonistic, greedy playboys whom are in concert with the Devil. They often carry out acts that would disgust us and all in the name of Allah... point is that we need to let go of single actions and temper our response to the world around us...

    When I think of the darker side of domestic life in the ME clans and the region in general, I think how lucky we are to be born into the free world. I also think of the beating we give ourselves over our lack of sensitivity to a culture that sees such sensitivity as weakness.. The majority of folks are just trying to get by there and dont pay attention to us, but the well funded fundamentalists and terrorist gain footholds and turn normal people into witless accomplices... our money is better spend out thinking these guys, not out gunning them.. as the old saying goes "for a true warrior, victory starts in his mind, and therefore the battle is won before it begins"... Lets focus on the real threats and do battle on that basis and in balance with the world around us, the innocents whom we weep for today will eventually find peace under our wings...
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    If this is true; then it is simply ludicrous to spend this money after we fully withdraw.http://www.stripes.com/2.1208/afghan...al-1.168881The U.S. military expects that sustaining the Afghan army and police forces after the planned withdrawal of American combat forces in 2014 will cost about $4 billion a year and that most of that money will have to come from the United States and other outside donors, a senior military official told The Washington Post on Thursday.The Afghan government can afford to pay only about 12 percent of the expected price tag, the official told the Post. The majority of the remaining costs would be borne by the U.S. government. U.S. officials also are counting on big contributions from NATO allies to fund the Afghan forces beyond 2014, the Post said.The Obama administration plans to announce the enduring price tag for the Afghan troops at a NATO summit in May.Read more about the enduring cost of maintaining security in Afghanistan from The Washington PostAfghan members of the joint force patrol in Wardak province, Afghanistan, in 2009. Matthew Friberg/Courtesy U.S. Army
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    Army Details Afghan Transition Deployment Plans Details Afghan Transition Deployment PlansFebruary 17, 2012Military.com|by Michael HoffmanThe Army will deploy more than 1,400 soldiers split into 18-person training teams to Afghanistan this spring and summer as the U.S. moves ahead with handing combat operations to Afghan units. More U.S. training teams will head to Afghanistan as combat troops return home and the U.S. ends its combat mission, said Army Lt. Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, deputy commander of the U.S. force in Afghanistan. Five Army brigade combat teams and one Army Reserve command unit will deploy to Afghanistan between April and August. Entire brigades, however, will not deploy on this mission. Army leaders will deploy officers and senior noncommissioned officers to make up the 18-person training teams that regional commanders will assign to specific Afghan army, police, and border police units.“By doing that, we maintain our connectivity to the Afghan forces as we thin out,” Scaparrotti told reporters at the Pentagon Feb. 8. “We maintain our ability to provide enablers to them and to advise them. And the other thing is, we also maintain our [situational awareness] of the battlefield.” The Pentagon is calling these 18-person units “Security Force Assistance Teams.” Many in the Army compare them to the Military Transition Teams -- made up of 10 to 15 soldiers -- that the U.S. deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. What the Army is doing differently this time is building these new training teams with soldiers from the same brigade. The Army had previously built the military training teams with “augmentees” from units scattered across the globe. “These guys all know each other and can work together. They don’t [have to] start trying to get to know each other,” said Maj. Gen. Joseph Anderson, who commands the 4th Infantry Division. The Pentagon announced Wednesday the units that will make up these training teams will come from the following units: • 2nd BCT, 101st Airborne Division, Fort Campbell, Ky. • 2nd BCT, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Ga. • 3rd BCT, 4th Infantry Division, Fort Carson, Colo. • 4th BCT, 1st Armored Division, Fort Bliss, Texas. • 162nd Infantry Brigade, Fort Polk, La. • 1st Army, Rock Island Arsenal, Ill. Soldiers from these units will complete a three-week training course at the Joint Readiness Training Center at Fort Polk, La. Soldiers from the 3rd BCT, of Fort Carson, will complete their training next week before deploying to Regional Command-South, Anderson said. Other units will deploy to RC-East. These units will deploy as Pentagon leaders plan to pull out 23,000 troops by September, part of President Obama’s promise to end the transition of U.S. forces from Afghanistan by 2014. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has said the U.S. could end combat operations as soon as 2013 -- 18 months before President Obama’s 2014 target. Anderson helped oversee the transition of combat operations in Iraq as the chief of staff for Gen. Raymond Odierno when he served as commander of U.S. forces in Iraq. Odierno is now the Army’s chief of staff. Anderson told Military.com that the seniority of soldiers of the security force assistance teams would help teach leadership and put Afghans in the lead of combat operations. “The primary thrust over there is putting Afghans in the lead,” Anderson said.© Copyright 2012 Military.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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    Taken today on my round robin. Soldier taking a nap. Says it all....

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    I was near this tragedy and cant say more. RIP troop. I heard he was only in country for a few weeks when this happened.

    R.I. guardsman died after saving Afghan girl - Army News | News from Afghanistan & Iraq - Army Times

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    PROVIDENCE, R.I. — A Rhode Island National Guard member struck and killed by an armored vehicle in Afghanistan last week had moved an Afghan girl to safety shortly before the accident, military officials said.
    The National Guard on Wednesday released details of the March 22 accident that killed 29-year-old Sgt. Dennis Weichel Jr. of Providence and called him a hero.
    Officials say Weichel's unit was in Laghman province when they encountered several Afghan children in the path of their convoy. They say Weichel saw a girl trying to retrieve an item under the armored vehicle and moved her to safety, then was struck.
    "He would have done it for anybody," said Staff Sgt. Ronald Corbett, who was a mentor to Weichel and who deployed with him to Iraq in 2005. "That was the way he was. He would give you the shirt off his back if you needed it."
    Weichel was posthumously awarded the Bronze Star and the NATO Service Medal Afghanistan Campaign Ribbon RI Star.
    Visiting hours are set for 4 p.m. Sunday at Olson & Parent Funeral Home in Providence. He will be buried at the Rhode Island Veterans Cemetery in Exeter.
    He is survived by three children, his fiancee and his parents.
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    The Memorials that are on my FOB.



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    In TF Bastogne, two names appear that were in my former unit.
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    Hit the Pakistan border today. Hot and just too crazy to stay there.

    Taken on lift-off



    Enjoying the view


    Landed safely.
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    Pakistan in the distance

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