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    There will be a hearing on feuds in the lawsuit of United States vs. Alvarez as Supreme Court agrees to hear arguments about Stolen Valor Act. The free speech protections of the First Amendment may be violated by the Stolen Valor Act. If this is the suit, then the law, intended to defend military awards, might actually be unconstitutional.

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    I don't understand how any interpretation of the Bill of Rights can say that the Stolen Valor Act is unconstitutional. The Bill of Rights states:

    "The free communication of ideas and opinions is one of the most precious of the rights of man. Every citizen may, accordingly, speak, write, and print with freedom, but shall be responsible for such abuses of this freedom as shall be defined by law."

    What ideas or opinions are being suppressed by this law? Individuals are falsely claiming credit for deeds done by braver men and women. They are stealing the rare honor and respect that these medals and ribbons bestow upon their true recipients. Part of me feels bad for these phonies but the second I remember the hardships I endured to earn the title of United States Marine or the small pieces of cloth on my chest, I quickly shed my empathy. In a time of war and loss of American lives, the general public notice our sacrifices and finally recognize us. When I joined in 1998, there was no war and little to no respect for the Armed Forces.

    Though we have evolved from a society like that of Sparta or Rome where battle was the true test of manhood and dominance, the military is still respected. Those who claim false valor have noticed the reverence that is shown to veterans and claim it for themselves. They are stealing that which does not belong to them and using it for their own personal gain. This is a matter far beyond someone exercising their right to free speech, this is clear cut theft. The Stolen Valor Act is most certainly NOT unconstitutional.

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    You want to be a civvy that never served and walk with a MOH around your neck; then go for it. I know in some countries in South America that if you wear BDUs and never served is a reason to get killed. But in our country, I feel that as long as you are not doing it for personal gain or impersonating someone then you could do what you want. Once you tamper with dd214s then it's another story. Just my two cents.
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    Absolutely disgusting, if they ever bring back the draft they ought to sign these jackoffs up first, let them earn what they already claim as theirs
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    What a kick in the balls for every Active Duty, Reservist or Vet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Glenn View Post
    What a kick in the balls for every Active Duty, Reservist or Vet.
    Fully agree Top, I also think there is allot of political will to get this made right doing right by those whom actually earned their accolades for meritorious service... I read several interviews with retired vets whom are very committed to exposing posers and one particular one by a retired Sgt Major from US Special Forces which impressed me greatly.... his commitment, MO and resources are considerable and a real answer to this question of stolen valor. Harnessing political will to sponsor a bill through the houses is a next step in my view.. and an important one.. if evidence is needed to prove the falsehood under any new law, the likes of the retired Sgt Major will get it for sure...
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