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    I'm glad there's at least an "ongoing invetigation". I hope that the Army will be more diligemnt from now on. We don't want anymore POSs falling through the cracks!

    How's leave going, Chief Q? It's gotta be good being with your wife & daughter again. Thank you for your sevice & thank your family for allowing you to serve from me. They serve also. Ask my wife & kids!
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    its awesome Top!! One week left to go!! I am black again from the tanning lol. My daughters are enjoying the water so much!! thanks for asking and thanks for the appreciation which swings both ways. I am appreciative of your service as well and your contribution to this outstanding forum.
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    Thanks, Chief Q. That means a lot to me.

    Enjoy what's left of your leave & then what? Back to your home post over there? Will your family be staying at home?
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    16 months left in Europe and then I see what happens. The family is one again
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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefwarrantofficer View Post
    16 months left in Europe and then I see what happens. The family is one again
    Awesome..You're a cool dude/ family guy and an excellant Soldier. You're mighty fine role model for us all.. I gotta run. This Soldier is running late/lol.
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    and the same goes for everyone else here. Some damn good leadership. Stay strong. Stay Army. Stay cool.

    Shoot,.

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    You know what they say - "Be All You Can Be in the Army of One by being Army Strong"!

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    Default Airborne Infantry. Oh, yean,...

    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Glenn View Post
    You know what they say - "Be All You Can Be in the Army of One by being Army Strong"!

    Airborne! All the way!
    Roger that Master Sergeant. Hooaa, I don't mean to come off too cocky or like Hot Shot, I'm just a proud Soldier who can't wait to earn his wings..It would be great if we could jump with a few guys up off the slick on a saturday morning. We could jump and meet up again in the old drop zone just shy to where our cars are parked. lol..he he.. Soon...

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    The shame here is, this guy isn't in the military, so UCMJ doesn't apply. Stolen Valor laws won't punish him nearly severe enough. He may do some time, but not much, if any. Likely probation. Considering his crime, I would rather have a murderer in the cell he'd been using.
    Dib, I feel your pain. My fathers wife (I refuse to call her stepmother as she's never been any kind of mother to me) has a lot of trouble staying in her lane. She has caused a lot of discord and chaos in my family. My grandfather wouldn't let my father around for nearly 8 years over the woman. They divorced, and all was well again. Unfortunately they re-married a couple of years ago, and hell is back all over again.
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    A woman can, absolutely, cause you a whole lot more trouble than its worth.

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    recruiting changes due to this mishap.....

    Army enlistment changed in light of faker - Army News, news from Iraq, - Army Times

    Army enlistment changed in light of faker




    By Danny Robbins - The Associated Press
    Posted : Friday May 28, 2010 10:02:08 EDT

    DALLAS The Army is instituting a new procedure for checking the backgrounds of enlistees who claim to have a military record after a report that a reservist apparently faked a background as a Marine to enter the service.
    Recruiters can no longer simply accept discharge papers as proof of service, Douglas Smith, public information officer for the Army recruiting command, told The Associated Press on Thursday. They now must also seek to verify the documents through a military database, he said.
    The directive follows an AP story last Friday detailing how a Texas man apparently tricked the Army into allowing him to enter a reserve unit as a noncommissioned officer earlier this year.
    Records show that Jesse Bernard Johnston III, 26, was given the rank of sergeant even though he didn't have a military background other than spending six weeks in a 12-week Marine officer candidate program for college students. Because Johnston didn't complete the course, he never became a Marine.
    Smith said the change in enlistment procedure, which went into effect Tuesday, means recruiters can't accept an enlistee's discharge paperwork, known in the military as a DD-214, as proof of military service without cross-checking it through the Defense Manpower Data Center.
    Previously, he said, a "valid-looking" DD-214 would have been accepted without checking the database.
    Smith declined to give a reason for the change or discuss the Johnston matter, which is under investigation by the Army.
    Johnston joined the Army's Corps Support Airplane Company based at the Fort Worth Naval Air Station in February. Since March, he has been stationed at Fort Rucker in Alabama, the primary training base for Army aviation. He has not responded to phone and e-mail messages seeking comment.
    A spokeswoman at Fort Rucker said Thursday the ongoing investigation prevents her from commenting on Johnston's status.
    Rep. Mike Coffman, a former Marine who has closely followed the Johnston case, said the change in enlistment procedure confirms his fear that loopholes are allowing individuals to join the Army without being properly vetted.
    "It is unconscionable that U.S. Army policy has been to simply accept, rather than verify, discharge documents provided to recruiters," Coffman, a Colorado Republican who serves on the House Armed Services Committee, wrote in an e-mail to the AP.
    In a letter delivered to Secretary of Defense Robert Gates on Monday, Coffman said his office had obtained a copy of a phony DD-214 portraying Johnston as a veteran of Marine service in Iraq and Afghanistan and that the document may have been used when he enlisted in the Army Reserve.
    Doug Sterner, a Vietnam veteran and military awards historian, said a DD-214 essentially a resume of military service generated for each veteran is an easily forged document. He said he is aware of many instances in which such documents have been falsified or altered to obtain preferences in hiring as well as veterans benefits but none in which one was used for military enlistment.
    "With a history of how frequently these have been forged, it's amazing that the military has not been checking them," Sterner said.
    Smith said the Army has always checked enlistees' Social Security numbers against the manpower database. However, those checks seek only general information and are aimed mainly at making sure someone who professes to have no military service is telling the truth.
    Citing the investigation, he declined to say whether Johnston's Social Security number was checked and what, if anything, was discovered.
    Questions about Johnston came to the Army's attention when an officer became concerned over Johnston's inability to answer questions about the Marine medals and ribbons he was wearing. The officer, who spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, said he later learned from the Marines that Johnston never served. He said he then contacted military legal authorities.
    Johnston's ex-wife, also an Army reservist, obtained an annulment earlier this month on grounds of fraud after filing court papers that included an affidavit in which she said Johnston obtained his rank in the Army Reserve with phony documents detailing Marine service.
    In her sworn statement, Melanie Rolfing, 24, said Johnston led her to believe he'd served with the Marines in Iraq and Afghanistan and earned a Bronze Star and two purple hearts. She also described how he would attend military functions wearing a Marine dress uniform. The annulment was granted after Johnston signed a document waiving his right to contest it.
    DISCUSS: Will these changes be enough to stop fakers?
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