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    Quote Originally Posted by Grunt Medic TXARNG View Post
    Chief - all AR 670-1 says is that the "commander may authorize civilian running shoes to be worn with the PT uniform" and FM 21-20 specifies the run event will be compled wearing running shoes and not barefoot.
    I agree with this, however you know how vague regs are.......look at table e-1 in AR 670-1
    It says Running shoes. To me and most people running shoes are very easily identified, but I do understand where you are coming from. Without the proper training who is to enforce the use of correct running shoes and not walking shoes for example.


    I tried to attach an extract of APP E of FM 21-20 but it was too large. In there you can find info on selecting the correct running shoe.
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    I 100% agree with you on the deficiencies of some of our written guidance, Chief. And I've been through FM 21-20, to include Appendix E. I think we can agree that there is no truly clear definition of what acceptable running shoes are - only several cases where we can clearly identify what they are not.

    Personally, I'm excited about the newest research into barefoot and ultralight-shoe running. I have a nice, well maintained cinder track near my house, and plan to start doing 1/8 mile intrvals barefoot to see how well I hold up - I'll post results when I do so, a couple of months from now.
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    In Navy UDT we used to run barefoot in the sand. It was easy on the feet but hard on the legs.
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    I really do think that barefoot running is not for the Army. t may be alright for a bit but not for a 30 mile running week.
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    I think barefoot running has it's place, but I don't think that it's in the military. Research on the subject is controversial, especially since it is such a new phenomenon. Well, it's been around for a long time, but it's just starting to make a comeback! Biomechanically, there are obvious differences between shod and barefoot running. Naturally, running barefoot forces you to run with a midfoot strike because it would hurt like hell to heel strike directly on a hard surface. It has been shown that midfoot strikers have more midfoot sprains and achilles tendonitis, while heel strikers have more shin splints and knee pain. Granted, these differences could be due to many different things like arch height, joint action timing (joint coupling), hip strength, etc. I think because it's the new fad, people are going to jump on the band wagon and all their pain will go away, but eventually they will begin to present with other lower extremity overuse injuries. My advisor is doing a barefoot study next semester, so I'll be interested to see what he finds.

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    I'd be interested too, Ashley. We had to run barefoot because we swam back to the starting point. As far as I know that was the only reason.
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    I like to run barefoot in the sand sometimes to switch things up. Earlier this summer I did a speed workout at Atwater beach with my cousin, I was sore for days! Running in the sand is supposed to be much easier on your joints, while working muscles you otherwise wouldn't use. I'm not sure what muscles you use instead, but that's what the experts say!

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    I can vouch for the aches & pains. Most of us never got used to it. The minimum distance was 2 miles & max was 5 & we went as fast as the person leading the run wanted to go. Usually twice a week or more depending on the unit mission & workload. Most of them had something to prove so normally it was very fast. Then we had to swim back regardless of the temp. Normally it was cold water even in summer. Fortunately it was a volunteer outfit & we could drop out anytime. To my knowledge nobody ever did. We already had too much blood & sweat invested by that time but I myself thought about going back to submarines often. I stuck it out, though & I'm glad I did.
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    Alright, quick question, how long should I wait to go to sleep after a run? The snow is melting and I made a promise to myself that I would pass the APFT with nothing lower than an 80 in all areas by my birthday. (May) So, its gonna be a run in the morning and a run in the evening. Im going to double up the C25k runs. (By double up I mean do them twice a day) Im also starting the 2Hundred Sit Ups and 1Hundred Push Ups workouts.
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    You should get with your local running club - you will find people there who are incredibly knowledgeable, far more than Soldiers who only run incidentally. Your goals are admirable, so keep at it!
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