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    My son is currently in PT holdover. He was in OSUT Infantry and has failed the final PT for graduation. were several to fail and have been being retested occasionally. My son has a back problem, went to the dr and was given just pain relievers and was advised not to go on profile. He then failed PT and was not allowed to graduate. He is failing only the push up portion, he consistently excels at the 2 mile run and sit ups. He was an expert marksman and did very well in all areas of his training otherwise. He absolutely does not want to be discharged, he wants to remain in the Army. How long will they keep giving him the PT test? Each time they say it is the last time and then they do it again. Of course he is happy about that. As I said, he really wants to continue his career and is still very proud of his choice of Infantry. I think he has done enough push ups on his PT score to pass a basic training PT but since he was in OSUT he needs to pass the AIT requirements for PT.
    Do you have any advice for him? He swears that his back seizes every time he tries to do push ups and he has to hold his breath from the pain and can not do enough correctly to pass. The last time he had a PT test he maxed out on sit ups and had the faster run time he ever recorded. Any direction from someone knowledgeable would be greatly appreciated. I would rather have solid advice than opinion. Please help and feel free to asky any other questions for clarification. My heart is absolutely breaking for my son, I know how badly he wants this. I personally think he was given some bad advice a few months ago when he was told going on profile would not be wise. He was afraid to miss any training. He has been in holdover with some guys that were on profile so they were allowed healing time. Through this whole ordeal I still hear my son saying how proud he is to be a part of the US Army and how much he admires and respects all of his superior officers. He blame no one for his failure and only wants to move forward but constantly being told that he will be sent home the next time is starting to wear him down as well. Maybe it is a motivation tactic, maybe not, I am not sure. Please if anyone has any useful advice please help.

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    Damlin,

    Welcome to the forums and it must be just as stressful as a parent when their child are having some sort of difficulties in their lives. The AIT grade portion of the current AFPT (which is what every soldier standard is) mandates that he needs to pass every event. Also, the PT test is given to every soldier (even an old 40ish doggie like myself) every 6 months. Matter of fact, my next PT test is in a few weeks and I have to pass it just like every other soldier or face the consequences of being flagged.



    During the last decade when soldiers were needed on the battlefield, soldiers who failed PT had no danger of being discharged from the military but with the force cuts on the horizon, it is becoming imperative for every soldier to pass his PT test or a discharge will be possible.



    Your son is trying to be an infantryman where upper-body strength is paramount to survival on the battlefield. Even though he has good situps and can run, the upper strength is very important too. The new APFT will still have push-ups but for a minute duration in which you cannot stop. If you do; then that will be your reps for the minute.



    His health is important and his back problems should take precedence over being a soldier (even though he has the heart). I wouldnt want him to squeak by on one rep then have long term problems down the road. As a matter of fact, the physical part gets much harder after AIT.



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    It sounds like he needs to go get checked out about his back, there is no point in keep taking PT tests if he is not improving b/c his back is messed up...did he mess up his back in basic or before he joined?

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    He hurt it somehow during the basic training portion of OSUT. I agree that he should see a doctor again about his back, but he is afraid they will discharge him for sure if he does that. I don't know how to advise him. He just took another PT test and failed the push ups part and as of yet has not been told whether he will be sent home or not, just that he failed. So he is in limbo right now.
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    Thanks for your response. Good Luck on your next PT test, sounds like you will do great and thanks also for your service to our country. I agree that his health is important. The hard part for him is knowing that he has lots of strength and does well above expectations in every area except push ups. He just completed a PT test and failed the push ups and is now waiting to hear when they will send him home or even if they will. So hard for him mentally even more than physically. I don't know how many more opportunities he will receive before they actually send him home. I have read online about some people being in PT holdover for more than 6 months.

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    I would go to the doctor, they cant kick you out for seeking medical help, but they can kick you out for failing 20 million PT test in a row....get it? If he gets to the doctor, he says what is wrong and what he needs to do to heal and maybe they will let him heal then try again, but if he just keeps failing the pt test, they will for sure kick him out.

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    Thanks I will advise him to try that. I do appreciate your help.

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    No problem, hope everything works out.

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