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    Having to drop an NCO was rare, and the only time I ever saw it happen was with a Blue-to-Green E-5 talking back to one of the drill sergeants in front of the privates. I'm not saying anything biased or bashing the Navy, I just attribute it the behavior to the difference in branches of service.

    We made it clear to the NCOs that they could police up the privates but were not under any circumstances to perform corrective training on them. It was actually nice having the prior-service guys around because they could field all of the "whats the real army like" questions. On Sundays when the joes were in the barracks doing maintenance, the NCOs were typically cut loose and allowed to go to the PX/movie/whatever as long as they did not leave post.

    I'm really trying to dredge up my experiences with them from the dusty reaches of my brain. I was always so busy (NEVER TIRED!), and they were kind of the least of my worries at the time.

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    Great info DS! Do you know if being housed in separate quarters is standard for other installations? Also, with being housed separately, would I have access to cell phone, laptop, etc. ?

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    When I was in BCT these past two months we trained with several E-5s who were prior service, mostly navy. They are in fact treated with respect even by the drill sergeants. They were given extra privileges and all of us privates and specialists had to be at parade rest when addressing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Strong View Post
    When I was in BCT these past two months we trained with several E-5s who were prior service, mostly navy. They are in fact treated with respect even by the drill sergeants. They were given extra privileges and all of us privates and specialists had to be at parade rest when addressing them.
    They are non-commissioned officers, regardless of what branch of service they came from.

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    Great info DS! Do you know if being housed in separate quarters is standard for other installations? Also, with being housed separately, would I have access to cell phone, laptop, etc. ?
    Being housed separately is probably common, but it will depend on the availability/accessibility of alternate quarters. I'd be HIGHLY surprised if you were not allowed to use of a cell phone or laptop in your quarters. Don't plan on taking your cell phone with you during the training day, though...basically no where the privates will see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.S.11B View Post
    As a D.S., I have seen several "Blue to Green" NCOs and some reclassing NCOs come through BCT.

    To sum it up, how you will be treated varies by the chain of command you are assigned to. We were able to let prior-service NCOs in our company stay in an off-cycle barracks so they would not have to live with the joes. They would be present for everything: formations, accountability, PT, etc etc etc. Everything will be fine until you are late or screw up because you think you are above the BCT environment. Then, you WILL get smoked in front of the privates, typically harder than they get beat down.

    Just like everything else in the Army, it'll be a cake walk if you do the right thing and don't let some other prior-service NCO get you stuck on stupid. It's too easy.




    D.S.11b,

    I am going into BCT at Ft. Jackson as an E-5 as well in a week. Well, reception first then BCT obvioulsy. My grade determination came back E-5 (ps AF). Can you elaborate if you have time on how the NCO's are housed during BCT? Are the "off-cycle" barracks the same as the 60 person bays that house the privates, or is it more like a dorm type set up? Don't care either way, just curious. And, do you know if NCO's will be allowed to have their cell phones at night in the off-cycle barracks? I was planning on going thru basic like a newbie, so reading your post kinda caught me off guard. I mean I would love to live away from the privates, however, I am in the mindset that I will live them until told otherwise once I get to Jackson...if that's even the case. And I do understand that I will be accountable for everything along with the joes.

    Swithching gears, I agree with Tom Foolery on the fact that the mental mind games may not have the same effect on a NCO as it would on a fresh face E-1. Having said that, I'm certainly not saying that it is useless. I could definitely use a refresher on establishing my military bearing as I have been out of service for almost 4 years. And I know I was in the Air Force, and not the Army. So I have a lot to learn and I welcome the challenge and disclipline that will come with BCT.

    Anyway, if you get to this post before I leave in a week then great. If not, certainly no biggie and I will find out the answers to my question upon arrival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.S.11B View Post
    They are non-commissioned officers, regardless of what branch of service they came from.



    Being housed separately is probably common, but it will depend on the availability/accessibility of alternate quarters. I'd be HIGHLY surprised if you were not allowed to use of a cell phone or laptop in your quarters. Don't plan on taking your cell phone with you during the training day, though...basically no where the privates will see it.

    Sorry, I asked about cell phones and then went back an re-read your posts. Seems you already answered it.

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    I just graduated BCT in May. I went through as an E6. It was weird being the same rank as most of the drill sergeants. I was housed with the other guys. I stayed in a room with another NCO going through basic. I did get to keep my phone all through BCT as well. The drill sergeants were not allowed to get in our face an scream at us but they could correct us. We did not have to walk around with a Battle Buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Chris Cooper View Post
    I just graduated BCT in May. I went through as an E6. It was weird being the same rank as most of the drill sergeants. I was housed with the other guys. I stayed in a room with another NCO going through basic. I did get to keep my phone all through BCT as well. The drill sergeants were not allowed to get in our face an scream at us but they could correct us. We did not have to walk around with a Battle Buddy.
    Dr.?

    Anyway, when I went through MP reclass, we had two E-6s, tons of E-5s and promotable E-4s and our cadre were drills. It seemed weird. "Hey sergeant, stand at parade rest!!". "Yes, drill sergeant".
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