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    I am an NCO heading to BCT April 25 and am wondering if anyone has an idea of what to expect. I was a direct commission engineering officer and decided to request OCS due to the fact that I am prior Navy and know nothing about the Army. I was scheduled to go straight to OCS in June but received a call from my recruiter a few days ago informing me that due to the new AR 601-210, all prior service personnel who have not attended Army BCT, regardless of rank or time in service, must now attend. TRADOC 350-6 Paragraph 4-8 states that prior service personnel are considered IET soldiers and will comply with applicable regulations, standards and training requirements. Elsewhere it states that NCO's are to be treated with the respect due their grade.
    Has anyone experienced an NCO in BCT? If so, what am I to expect. Please only reply if you have first hand knowledge of the subject. Thanks for your help!

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    What rank are you actually coming in to the Army as? If you are going into OCS, just b/c you are going to get paid as an E5 does not mean you are an NCO....please elaborate on that to give you more accurate advice.

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    I was able to maintain my prior rank of E-5, not just getting paid as an E-5 cadet. I have been wearing sergeant stripes for the last 8 months, and have been actively drilling as a sergeant.

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    I will try and find the exact answer on how you will be treated (got a couple of buddies that are Drill Sergeants), but I would prepare to be treated just like you are in basic with the rest, probably not even wear the stripes either (I dont know how they let someone join back up with SGT stripes and no basic training, but thats not the point right now)...good luck to you...

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    I fully understand and accept the fact that I will be treated just like every other boot in BCT, which is fine. I guess my question has more to do with the dynamic of how the DS's will interact with individuals who have already attended basic training in the past. Obviously the mind bending will not have quite the same effect on PS personnel as it does on new recruits. As far as me keeping my stripes without Army basic, your not knowing anything about my past service makes your ignorance forgivable.

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    Let me see if I understand this correctly - you were selected for a direct commission into the Engineer Branch. You decided that the Army Officer Basic Course - Engineer was insufficient to teach you the Army way of doing things. So you gave up your direct commission and enlisted under an OCS contract - knowing that you may very well get a branch other than Engineer, and knowing that if you fail to complete OCS you will be obligated to serve out your contract as an enlisted Soldier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomfoolery View Post
    As far as me keeping my stripes without Army basic, your not knowing anything about my past service makes your ignorance forgivable.
    You are right I dont know, and I dont care, what I am trying to say is that is what wrong with the Army's "common sense"...how can an NCO who has no idea of how the Army works lead Soldiers that know how the Army does work??? get it? I am sure you are a good person and were a good NCO in your own branch but that does not make you a great Army NCO!

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    I thought prior service went to WTC instead of basic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Desert_Rat View Post
    I thought prior service went to WTC instead of basic.
    WTC is no longer in play as far as I recall. At least not here at FLW.
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    They did away with WTC & now all who would have gone there go to BCT instead.
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