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    ROTC was my source of commissioning. FM 3-21.8/FM7-8 is a good place to start gathering knowledge. With that said, ROTC looks for leadership potential more than tactical/technical knowledge.

    I just finished Ranger School (Infantry focused course) and I can tell you that LDAC is all about leadership/knowledge of the OPORD process.

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    Have you not attended WLC yet? Because that course will give you the basics of squad level tactics (I was issued FM 7-8). Besides the references from Boogie11A, I suggest you start renting some episodes of Band of Brothers and The Pacific to gain some knowledge.

    Remember that ROTC is about learning. Nobody is expecting you to be a stud nor having hooah schools will prove that expertise. I am in Afghanistan and this is where you are tested. No offense to the LT, but we just saw a ceremony of some MPs that were awarded the CAB and ARCOM with V device and IMO a combat proven vet will trump Ranger school or any textbook anyday. So when you get there, ask someone has some combat experience at that exercise and ask some questions pertaining to dismounted patrols. No shame in asking.

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    BTW, do you know know the difference between hasty and deliberate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWO Sharkey View Post
    Remember that ROTC is about learning. Nobody is expecting you to be a stud nor having hooah schools will prove that expertise. I am in Afghanistan and this is where you are tested. No offense to the LT, but we just saw a ceremony of some MPs that were awarded the CAB and ARCOM with V device and IMO a combat proven vet will trump Ranger school or any textbook anyday. So when you get there, ask someone has some combat experience at that exercise and ask some questions pertaining to dismounted patrols. No shame in asking.
    This. You are in a perfect position to ask questions with little fear of "why the f*** don't you know that" coming your way - take full advantage of it. FM 7-8 and Ranger Handbook are your friends, but learn from the TACs and the senior guys - that's why you're there, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWO Sharkey View Post
    Have you not attended WLC yet? Because that course will give you the basics of squad level tactics (I was issued FM 7-8).
    Yeah I know the basics, but since then haven't really put them to use and yeah I know the difference between hasty and deliberate attacks. We do simulate convoy attacks where we are forced to return fire via hasty attacks...react to contact type situations but even with those we ain't doing it all the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by CWO Sharkey View Post
    Remember that ROTC is about learning. Nobody is expecting you to be a stud nor having hooah schools will prove that expertise.
    That's the thing...I think they do do expect me to be because I am a MS101 meaning first year noncontracted ROTC student and now I am already going out with the MS3s (third year contracted students) in less than a semester. I was told I need to go with the MS3s during the next FTX next semester instead of going to the FTX for the MS1s. There has been several times they have pulled me aside and questioned me or asked my opinion\advice on things (that's normal). Just because someone is a sergeant does not mean they know everything especially when Infantry stuff is not our fortay. I mean, It's not like I am out with a platoon establishing patrol bases, conducting raids and doing recon. Plus, women are not even allowed in those MOSes....yet.

    Thanks for the FM references but I already have those. FM 7-8 is the old version which has been updated but I have them both. I just know they are going to put me on the stop AGAIN and expect me to *know everything*. How can I lead by example when I don't know what is really going on?
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